1 00:00:06,549 --> 00:00:03,790 nasa and the european space agency easa 2 00:00:08,970 --> 00:00:06,559 have embarked on a joint program to 3 00:00:11,650 --> 00:00:08,980 explore mars in the coming decades and 4 00:00:14,949 --> 00:00:11,660 selected the five science instruments 5 00:00:17,080 --> 00:00:14,959 for the first mission the exomars trace 6 00:00:19,180 --> 00:00:17,090 gas orbiter scheduled to launch in 7 00:00:21,490 --> 00:00:19,190 twenty sixteen is the first of three 8 00:00:24,520 --> 00:00:21,500 joint robotic missions to the red planet 9 00:00:27,160 --> 00:00:24,530 it will study the chemical makeup of the 10 00:00:29,770 --> 00:00:27,170 Martian atmosphere with the one thousand 11 00:00:32,470 --> 00:00:29,780 fold increase in sensitivity over 12 00:00:35,049 --> 00:00:32,480 previous Mars orbiters the mission will 13 00:00:37,630 --> 00:00:35,059 focus on trace gases including methane 14 00:00:40,270 --> 00:00:37,640 which could potentially be geochemical 15 00:00:42,579 --> 00:00:40,280 or biological in origin and be 16 00:00:45,669 --> 00:00:42,589 indicators for the existence of life on 17 00:00:48,160 --> 00:00:45,679 Mars the mission also will serve as an 18 00:00:58,569 --> 00:00:48,170 additional communications relay for Mars 19 00:00:58,579 --> 00:01:51,730 you 20 00:01:57,080 --> 00:01:54,110 we've been in the space business or 50 21 00:01:58,520 --> 00:01:57,090 years the simple stuff has been done you 22 00:02:00,260 --> 00:01:58,530 know missions don't cost 50 million 23 00:02:02,930 --> 00:02:00,270 dollars anymore because you can't do 24 00:02:05,359 --> 00:02:02,940 much for 50 million dollars missions 25 00:02:07,700 --> 00:02:05,369 tend to cost half a billion a billion or 26 00:02:10,430 --> 00:02:07,710 even billions of dollars to do the kind 27 00:02:12,890 --> 00:02:10,440 of world class science that NASA is 28 00:02:16,340 --> 00:02:12,900 known to do and that the American people 29 00:02:18,590 --> 00:02:16,350 expect us to do you know we've flown by 30 00:02:20,780 --> 00:02:18,600 planets long time ago Voyager did that 31 00:02:22,790 --> 00:02:20,790 we're in the process of orbiting planets 32 00:02:25,130 --> 00:02:22,800 and landing on planets and roving on 33 00:02:28,040 --> 00:02:25,140 planets that cost a little bit more than 34 00:02:30,320 --> 00:02:28,050 a few dollars the trouble is we also 35 00:02:32,449 --> 00:02:30,330 have an economic situation in the world 36 00:02:35,860 --> 00:02:32,459 that's not exactly conducive to a lot of 37 00:02:38,300 --> 00:02:35,870 extra money for science recognizing 38 00:02:41,000 --> 00:02:38,310 missions costs a lot more to do the best 39 00:02:43,880 --> 00:02:41,010 science and to the economic situation is 40 00:02:46,040 --> 00:02:43,890 it the best it could be it's time for us 41 00:02:47,990 --> 00:02:46,050 to stop competing with our major 42 00:02:49,940 --> 00:02:48,000 partners like the Europeans and start 43 00:02:51,979 --> 00:02:49,950 working together Mars has the raw 44 00:02:54,500 --> 00:02:51,989 materials to keep astronauts going for a 45 00:02:57,020 --> 00:02:54,510 long time it's got its got ice why is 46 00:03:00,650 --> 00:02:57,030 ice important well I stern's under water 47 00:03:03,050 --> 00:03:00,660 for drinking Isis me out of h2o hydrogen 48 00:03:05,120 --> 00:03:03,060 and oxygen hydrogen makes a great rocket 49 00:03:08,180 --> 00:03:05,130 fuel and oxygens the kind of stuff you 50 00:03:10,250 --> 00:03:08,190 like to breathe so the raw materials to 51 00:03:12,380 --> 00:03:10,260 support a human expedition to Mars are 52 00:03:14,990 --> 00:03:12,390 there but before we go there we need a 53 00:03:17,690 --> 00:03:15,000 map and we also need to make sure what 54 00:03:19,880 --> 00:03:17,700 Mars is me out of are there any toxins 55 00:03:21,680 --> 00:03:19,890 air is there any biology there we have 56 00:03:23,720 --> 00:03:21,690 to worry about the only way to do that 57 00:03:26,420 --> 00:03:23,730 really well is to go there and do a 58 00:03:28,039 --> 00:03:26,430 robotic sample return mission Mars is 59 00:03:30,289 --> 00:03:28,049 probably the most likely place in the 60 00:03:33,650 --> 00:03:30,299 solar system other than the earth for 61 00:03:36,289 --> 00:03:33,660 life to evolve at some point in time it 62 00:03:38,360 --> 00:03:36,299 was wet it had standing water it has 63 00:03:40,400 --> 00:03:38,370 organic material it has energy it's got 64 00:03:42,199 --> 00:03:40,410 all the ingredients for life and there 65 00:03:43,780 --> 00:03:42,209 may have been life there some time now 66 00:03:47,870 --> 00:03:43,790 it might have only been you know 67 00:03:49,670 --> 00:03:47,880 bacteria type of life but it's important 68 00:03:53,210 --> 00:03:49,680 to find out because it's the very first 69 00:03:56,120 --> 00:03:53,220 place we look for life in depth we find 70 00:03:58,400 --> 00:03:56,130 it or find fossil evidence of it that 71 00:04:01,490 --> 00:03:58,410 has profound implications for a universe 72 00:04:03,589 --> 00:04:01,500 that has as we know now hundreds if not 73 00:04:04,500 --> 00:04:03,599 thousands if not billions of planets out 74 00:04:05,640 --> 00:04:04,510 there 75 00:04:07,160 --> 00:04:05,650 and it says something about the 76 00:04:10,740 --> 00:04:07,170 possibilities of life in the universe 77 00:04:13,470 --> 00:04:10,750 the driving reason behind an ISA NASA 78 00:04:17,280 --> 00:04:13,480 collaboration is to build our 79 00:04:20,340 --> 00:04:17,290 capabilities to return samples from Mars 80 00:04:22,350 --> 00:04:20,350 in the 2020s that's a complicated series 81 00:04:24,659 --> 00:04:22,360 of missions it's not a single mission we 82 00:04:26,340 --> 00:04:24,669 call it a campaign because it could 83 00:04:28,770 --> 00:04:26,350 cover two or maybe three launch 84 00:04:30,300 --> 00:04:28,780 opportunities to be able to set the 85 00:04:32,670 --> 00:04:30,310 infrastructure on the surface of the 86 00:04:34,350 --> 00:04:32,680 planet get the samples back off of the 87 00:04:37,350 --> 00:04:34,360 planet and return those to Earth safely 88 00:04:39,300 --> 00:04:37,360 that's the driving goal for this broad 89 00:04:41,939 --> 00:04:39,310 collaboration is the ability to do that 90 00:04:44,939 --> 00:04:41,949 in an international context frankly the 91 00:04:47,790 --> 00:04:44,949 science of that could be very paradigm 92 00:04:49,050 --> 00:04:47,800 changing science and the my personal 93 00:04:50,580 --> 00:04:49,060 opinion is this needs to be an 94 00:04:51,960 --> 00:04:50,590 international collaboration because we 95 00:04:53,310 --> 00:04:51,970 may change paradigms around the world 96 00:04:56,250 --> 00:04:53,320 with what we find out from that mission 97 00:04:58,710 --> 00:04:56,260 the prices and costs of things continue 98 00:05:00,390 --> 00:04:58,720 to increase just inflation a roads are 99 00:05:02,010 --> 00:05:00,400 buying power and that's true around the 100 00:05:03,510 --> 00:05:02,020 world for whether you're buying a 101 00:05:05,250 --> 00:05:03,520 refrigerator whether you're buying a new 102 00:05:07,890 --> 00:05:05,260 car whether you're buying you know a 103 00:05:09,120 --> 00:05:07,900 jetliner for an airplane company or 104 00:05:11,820 --> 00:05:09,130 whether you're buying spacecraft and 105 00:05:13,770 --> 00:05:11,830 launch vehicles so as time goes on our 106 00:05:16,529 --> 00:05:13,780 budgets tend not to keep up with the 107 00:05:18,629 --> 00:05:16,539 inflation rates so the missions we can 108 00:05:21,689 --> 00:05:18,639 fly either become smaller or they become 109 00:05:24,510 --> 00:05:21,699 less frequent that was the case for both 110 00:05:26,370 --> 00:05:24,520 ISA and for NASA with Mars that as time 111 00:05:28,589 --> 00:05:26,380 went on and these missions when you go 112 00:05:30,839 --> 00:05:28,599 to the surface of another planet become 113 00:05:33,659 --> 00:05:30,849 especially challenging cost wise as well 114 00:05:35,760 --> 00:05:33,669 as technically so by merging we are 115 00:05:39,240 --> 00:05:35,770 keeping a very vibrant program in place 116 00:05:42,150 --> 00:05:39,250 that will allow us to go to Mars on 117 00:05:44,159 --> 00:05:42,160 every opportunity which essentially is a 118 00:05:47,159 --> 00:05:44,169 planetary alignment between Mars and 119 00:05:49,170 --> 00:05:47,169 Earth is optimum every 26 months makes 120 00:05:51,750 --> 00:05:49,180 the trip much shorter makes it easier to 121 00:05:52,950 --> 00:05:51,760 get to and so we like to go on those 122 00:05:54,839 --> 00:05:52,960 opportunities this kind of a 123 00:05:57,089 --> 00:05:54,849 collaboration allows us to do that on 124 00:06:00,080 --> 00:05:57,099 essentially every opportunity as long as 125 00:06:02,760 --> 00:06:00,090 we want to do that I'm not certain that 126 00:06:05,610 --> 00:06:02,770 anybody as a single space agency 127 00:06:09,180 --> 00:06:05,620 actually could do the Mars sample return 128 00:06:12,510 --> 00:06:09,190 campaign by itself it's complicated it's 129 00:06:13,709 --> 00:06:12,520 expensive and I think you really need 130 00:06:15,000 --> 00:06:13,719 this to be an international 131 00:06:17,190 --> 00:06:15,010 collaboration to make it a viable 132 00:06:18,070 --> 00:06:17,200 mission so to be able to do more sample 133 00:06:19,719 --> 00:06:18,080 return in a high 134 00:06:21,610 --> 00:06:19,729 collaborative fashion it's very 135 00:06:24,760 --> 00:06:21,620 important to get used to working with 136 00:06:27,189 --> 00:06:24,770 each other so that's what the 2016 and 137 00:06:29,679 --> 00:06:27,199 the 2018 missions are really about is a 138 00:06:32,140 --> 00:06:29,689 large-scale collaboration where we're 139 00:06:34,089 --> 00:06:32,150 essentially in each other's knickers as 140 00:06:35,740 --> 00:06:34,099 far as we're dependent on them and 141 00:06:38,290 --> 00:06:35,750 they're dependent on us which creates a 142 00:06:40,360 --> 00:06:38,300 very different dynamic than we typically 143 00:06:41,860 --> 00:06:40,370 deal with if we're only getting a single 144 00:06:44,589 --> 00:06:41,870 instrument here or providing them a 145 00:06:46,300 --> 00:06:44,599 single instrument there in fact if 146 00:06:48,580 --> 00:06:46,310 things go the way we want them to go and 147 00:06:51,309 --> 00:06:48,590 the way the US science community I 148 00:06:53,469 --> 00:06:51,319 believe wants to go the 2018 mission 149 00:06:54,640 --> 00:06:53,479 actually may cash the samples in other 150 00:06:58,059 --> 00:06:54,650 words collect them and put them in 151 00:06:59,379 --> 00:06:58,069 canisters for the sample return mission 152 00:07:02,260 --> 00:06:59,389 that would go retrieve those in the 153 00:07:04,899 --> 00:07:02,270 2020s so the 18 mission could be a very 154 00:07:07,390 --> 00:07:04,909 very large scale very exciting mission 155 00:07:09,879 --> 00:07:07,400 and set the science pace for Mars for a 156 00:07:12,309 --> 00:07:09,889 decade or more also leads directly into 157 00:07:13,930 --> 00:07:12,319 human exploration of the planet I don't 158 00:07:15,670 --> 00:07:13,940 think we can send humans to Mars without 159 00:07:18,760 --> 00:07:15,680 actually understanding the details of 160 00:07:20,860 --> 00:07:18,770 dust characteristics toxicity of the 161 00:07:22,540 --> 00:07:20,870 soils is there something alive in that 162 00:07:25,209 --> 00:07:22,550 soil it's a threat to our astronauts 163 00:07:27,040 --> 00:07:25,219 Mars sample return is almost mandatory 164 00:07:28,540 --> 00:07:27,050 before you send humans to the planet